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<_< im just saying but people who can award awards...

DO NOT

ISSUE

PINKLIST

its listed to him as the one who has to issue that, with good reason

Please do Not. issue it.

Same goes for Doner Without proof dont issue. Proof MUST be given and shown.

MS points donations are Going to be a Major Bish to prove.

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link me..to the pm. i want to see if hes abusing a legitimate Query into legitimacy of his claims

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I'm waiting to see how far this goes. He keeps threatening me with going to mods and Poop saying i'm disrespecting him and telling him what to do because i'm a judge and a member of the AAP. Am i the only one that realizes this is just a game? It doesnt apply to real life in the way he's making this out to be?

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  • 1 month later...

Additionally, everyone needs to know that the deuce the awards are for.

Prophet, your argument about the "intent" of Icebreaker was just about the most ridiculous thing i have ever read in these forums. There is NO WAY that award is for only nominating people!!!. Otherwise every member would be able to nominate people for whatever random award that they wanted too, just to get icebreaker.

I am fairly certain that the true intent of the award is to award members that do two things: 1) pay enough attention to fellow members to notice when they are award-worthy and 2) take the time to properly and successfully nominate the person for the award, resulting in the nominatee recieving the award.

Having lead actual soldiers in real life for almost 8 years and serving in the military for more than 10 years, I fully understand the importance of awards that function primarily as a reward for people just plain doing the right thing. Members taking notice of other members and taking the time to ensure that they get noticed - is the right thing and Icebreaker is the reward for members that do so.

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I've said this before but the original award, Wingman, was for 10 successful nominations on the old forums. Things got lost in translation. And again. You misunderstand me. I said it was for 5 nominations as opposed to nominating 5 people. I'm sorry that "successful" wasn't implied.

Don't try to tell me what the award was intended to promote seeing as i was the one to suggest the award for that purpose. Slow your roll

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No. 1 nomination can be for five people. Like headhunters, forge team, FTLA graduate. Not the same thing. There can even be 5 nominations for 1 person but that is why the word "seperate" was in the description. Obviously not the same thing, or, at least, i thought it was obvious.

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good work on changing your story as you go. I applaude the effort. Perhaps in the future you can provide thought-out well worded explanations, being that you are a leader and all. It would prevent problems in the future.

When you give a half-assed response to an issue, for whatever reason you decide to not apply yourself, it gives people the impression that you are either ignorant to what you are supposed to know or just being rude.

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"Ice breaker - *

Sucessfully Nominated and had 5 seperate people awarded by the AAP"

given your explanation, this should read "5 seperate nominations for 5 different people that resulted in the nominees being awarded by the AAP"

fair enough?

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Obvious troll is obvious.

Just because i dont compensate for your ignorance by writing out painstakingly detailed post with common knowledge, doesn't mean i'm being rude. There is better evidence to provide that i'm being rude but that, definitely, is not one of them. If you don't think its common knowledge, then learn before you argue without the right facts. You're in the AAP. You need to make informed decisions.

Don't argue with me for doing my job. My job in the AAP is to vote on awards. Technically, i dont even need to provide reasoning but i do cus i'm just nice like that. People can feel free to disagree with me and the majority will win. If they don't agree with me, the award will be awarded and i wont lose any sleep over it, but your problem is that they do agree me. Hmm. Why target me only then? Or are they all "just being biased"?

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you are the only one talking, however, if you refer to this post http://www.ksiforums.org/index.php?/topic/3999-bright-idea/, which was posted before what you just posted, you will see where i said it wasn't just you.

additionally, one of the keys to being an effective leader is ensuring that your subordinates understand the "why" behind and order or decision. When you just bark out orders or make decisions without any true backing, it makes you (the royal you, not the personal you) seem weak and insecure. That last statement was not only in reference to the AAP but to leadership principles in general.

Admittedly, I came here to shake it up. Complaints about the AAP rumble across KSI because even the members feel like you (the AAP) do not hold the same standard for each award. Call me a troll all you want, but the fact remains that the AAP is viewed as ineffective by members due to inconsistencies and attitudes.

We need to come together to fix that. We need to take the awards and actually come up with a set, clearly understood meaning that leaves no confusion to the awards purpose and design.

Also, Prophet, if you would like to call me ignorant because your explanations and reasons for your decisions leave Stephen Hawkins scratching his head, then you can say the same to a large portion of the other Div leaders, Directors and Sr Directors. Slow your roll and think about who you are insulting.

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-_- where do i start with this mess?

you are the only one talking, however, if you refer to this post http://www.ksiforums...99-bright-idea/, which was posted before what you just posted, you will see where i said it wasn't just you.

additionally, one of the keys to being an effective leader is ensuring that your subordinates understand the "why" behind and order or decision. When you just bark out orders or make decisions without any true backing, it makes you (the royal you, not the personal you) seem weak and insecure. That last statement was not only in reference to the AAP but to leadership principles in general.

Admittedly, I came here to shake it up. Complaints about the AAP rumble across KSI because even the members feel like you (the AAP) do not hold the same standard for each award. Call me a troll all you want, but the fact remains that the AAP is viewed as ineffective by members due to inconsistencies and attitudes.

We need to come together to fix that. We need to take the awards and actually come up with a set, clearly understood meaning that leaves no confusion to the awards purpose and design.

Also, Prophet, if you would like to call me ignorant because your explanations and reasons for your decisions leave Stephen Hawkins scratching his head, then you can say the same to a large portion of the other Div leaders, Directors and Sr Directors. Slow your roll and think about who you are insulting.

Just because you posted it beforehand doesnt mean i read it first. That is a decent length post so, most likely (and actually so), i started writing it before you posted that.

Next. The job of an AAP member is to vote Yes or No. It is actually a rule in the AAP that you cannot argue with aap members for their vote. There are no subordinates in the AAP and, therefore, no leadership involved. Sure there's a "Head" but there is no rank and structure for the AAP. There are plenty of situations where the answer "No" is sufficient enough. Sure you can ask why but after giving my reasoning, you can't deem it wrong just because you don't agree with it.

You are indeed shaking things up

I hold the same standard for the majority of awards. Some (like outstanding or of the months) are more subjective than others so leeway is granted.

Just because my explanations are short do not mean there isnt reason to them. People can do an awful lot of talking but still say nothing.

You are hardly Stephen Hawking.

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  • 2 weeks later...
<_< okay anybody with Mod powers in aap...DO NOT USE THEM IN AAP UNLESS YOUR NAME IS KSI LUCI LUX 7, Luci Licks. KSI Jiggy 7
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